Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

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Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by Crono22 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:00 pm

I have a level 27 succubus atm and I would like my first ring purchase to be one I can stick with at endgame to go along with EDH. I can not decide between dragon skin ring, hand of wade, or wuba's pipe. I was even thinking that lion heart talisman could be beneficial to solo arena or adventure because of all of the hp absorb. Also, if anyone has used wuba's pipe I would love to hear if it is worth buying.
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Re: Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by TMaus1704 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:22 pm

You mean Blood Talisman with HP absorb, right?
Actually you should not need to absorb HP, so this one wouldn't be my choice.
At the moment i got the Dragon Skin Ring + EDH, works pretty well Smile
I also would love to test Wubas pipe, but I don't want to spend so much Mojo for something i just wanna try. In my opinion the Dragon Skin Ring and Hand of Wade are identically strong, depends on your style of play. Hand of Wade is a little bit more offensive.
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Post by pyrofire on Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:31 pm

i played succubus too,for me EDH and Hand of Wade is the best for succubus..coz H.O.W have attack speed..and +7 attack stat..and ofcourse EDH is the best combination with any other accesory
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Post by bullseyed on Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:50 pm

I think the second ring isn't very useful at all. I finally bought one for my berserker once I got to the last level in adventure mode to help beat the dragon, but I didn't really see any difference before and after. You're much better off buying gems (agility) so you can dodge attacks.
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Re: Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by ApeHeIs on Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:35 am

I haven't bought any rings for my Succubus yet. I know everyone says EDH but its going to be really hard to not use H.O.W. and D.S.R. That would be a +12 attack and+ 25 attack speed. EDH would give you a bonus of +12 attack into hp but you do get + 8% attack into hp with H.O.W. I need to do the break down on all combos again and see what comes out on top.

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Re: Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by TMaus1704 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:56 am

Math be math, in end game gear you can't go without EDH, simply as it is. Even the +12 Gunpower won't be emoughe to compensate EDH and Hand of Wade or Drageon Skin Ring. Try on your own, but without EDH you won't stand a chance against top level pleyers
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Re: Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by ApeHeIs on Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:20 am

TMaus1704 wrote:Math be math, in end game gear you can't go without EDH, simply as it is. Even the +12 Gunpower won't be emoughe to compensate EDH and Hand of Wade or Drageon Skin Ring. Try on your own, but without EDH you won't stand a chance against top level pleyers

I'm not there yet so I don't have the experience to speak from but if you where using a Succ for just support and not a independent hero wouldn't you be better off just giving her the gun power and speed. If you put either of the other two heros in front of her and used the Succ more like cover for when they hit a hero then the opposition would fall for sure. I could understand the EDH if you where building two independent heros to fight side by side but a high end Berzerker with attack high 80's to 90 and then a Succ with attack 65 to 70 with level 6 shamans and a high magic level behind him seams very hard to stop. Thoughts?

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Re: Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by TMaus1704 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:41 pm

The problem is, that you are also missing the 10 HP Regeneration, 12% HP Absorbtion and the +200 HP -> you are built of paper. If your enemy also puts his hero in one line, both with mystical blast equipped he will snipe your succ out. And suddenly there are two heroes vs. one Wink
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Re: Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by Akichi on Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:48 am

Go Hand of Wade.

Or if you don't want to use mojo or want to use mojo on something else, farm the Lion Heart Talisman in Adventure. It's also a good stopgap replacement until you can afford a better ring.

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Re: Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by ApeHeIs on Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:03 pm

OK so I did all the numbers and here is what I was able to come up with. I Comboed the 4 end game rings and these are the stats and what they would do to a Succubus. I used +50 attack, 4 Shamans at 35% boost, and 60 attacks per min to calculate her Damage Per Minute. That base line seams to be common for most Succs. When the Wuba Pipe was used I have two DPWs. One for the four Shamans and one for three and a Priest.

DSR & HoW
+ 12 attack
+ 10 critical hit
+ 12% spell cool down
+ 25% attack speed
+ 8% of attack into hp
+ 30% movement speed
DPM=6138

DSR & WP
+ 5 attack
+ 10% critical attack
+ 12% spell cool down
+ 70% attack speed
- 20 hp a sec
4 Shamans DSP=6930 or 3 Shamans DPM=5775

DSR & EDH
+ 5 attack
+ 30% attack
+ 30% critical attack
+ 28% spell cool down
+ 200 hp
+ 10 hp a sec
+ 12% of attack into hp
DPM=5610

How & WP
+ 7 attack
+ 75% attack speed
+ 8% attack into hp
+ 30% movement speed
- 20 hp a sec
4 Shamans DPM=7353 or 3 Shamans DPM=6156

HoW & EDH
+ 7 attack
+ 35% attack speed
+ 20% attack into hp
+ 30%movement speed
+ 10% critical attack
+ 16 spell cool down
+ 200 hp
+ 10 hp a sec
DPM=5985

Looking at this from just a attack stand point and you used her just to have the back of another hero HoW and WP are the way to go. If your looking for a stand alone hero and the ability to survive then HoW and EDH are for you. Hope this gives people some in site for what they are looking to do.

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Re: Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by Goyobod on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:59 am

ApeHeIs wrote:OK so I did all the numbers and here is what I was able to come up with. I Comboed the 4 end game rings and these are the stats and what they would do to a Succubus. I used +50 attack, 4 Shamans at 35% boost, and 60 attacks per min to calculate her Damage Per Minute. That base line seams to be common for most Succs. When the Wuba Pipe was used I have two DPWs. One for the four Shamans and one for three and a Priest.

DSR & HoW
+ 12 attack
+ 10 critical hit
+ 12% spell cool down
+ 25% attack speed
+ 8% of attack into hp
+ 30% movement speed
DPM=6138

DSR & WP
+ 5 attack
+ 10% critical attack
+ 12% spell cool down
+ 70% attack speed
- 20 hp a sec
4 Shamans DSP=6930 or 3 Shamans DPM=5775

DSR & EDH
+ 5 attack
+ 30% attack
+ 30% critical attack
+ 28% spell cool down
+ 200 hp
+ 10 hp a sec
+ 12% of attack into hp
DPM=5610

How & WP
+ 7 attack
+ 75% attack speed
+ 8% attack into hp
+ 30% movement speed
- 20 hp a sec
4 Shamans DPM=7353 or 3 Shamans DPM=6156

HoW & EDH
+ 7 attack
+ 35% attack speed
+ 20% attack into hp
+ 30%movement speed
+ 10% critical attack
+ 16 spell cool down
+ 200 hp
+ 10 hp a sec
DPM=5985

Looking at this from just a attack stand point and you used her just to have the back of another hero HoW and WP are the way to go. If your looking for a stand alone hero and the ability to survive then HoW and EDH are for you. Hope this gives people some in site for what they are looking to do.

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Wow... It's very interesting research and idea that would be fascinating to see my stand alone Hero (Behemoth) in action with HOW & EDH.
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Re: Whats the second best all around ring besides EDH?

Post by cmg15326 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:29 am

So the H.O.W is more useful than the Pipe?iwas thinking about the pipe as second ring because of the attack speed increase
(all the time i lose a battleagainst a succ the succ is damn fast... I guess thats the reason for my idea.)
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