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Post by Guest Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:20 pm

Any Zerker users out there use the Wuba's pipe or whatever its called? I use it on my Succy and like it, but she doesnt take direct damage like the Zerker does so im not sure if it would be useful on him as he needs to heal himself more than she does. Just asking if any Zerkers use it and how do they like it?
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Post by bullseyed Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:00 pm

I think it would be good to get but I don't have it.
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Post by cmg15326 Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:27 am

I think the pipe in combination with the heart is a great thing :-) :-!
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Post by chiodo Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:04 pm

I prefer using the hand of wade, I like the HP drain from it and the attack bonus more than the attack speed
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Post by ccninja Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:37 pm

I have the pipe and dragon heart on my zerker.

I originally had had the dragon bracelet and dragon heart. but saved up for the pipe or hands of wade. I pretty much broke it down the numbers.

hands of wade:
atk +7
atk speed +15%
absorb 8% of damage into hp
movement speed +30%

Wuba pipe:
atk speed +60%
hp -20 per second.

A battle doesn't last that long. At most like 30 seconds. So I would lose 600hp, but my combined armor +16hp per second. So I lose 4hp. At the most I would 120 hp. I can off set this difference with life gem. Plus I have other stuff equipped that absorb damage into hp etc.. So I don't think being concerned with the life drain is that big of a deal.

now down to the attack.

lets say your attack is 80.
and your normal attack rate is 1 per second.

with the hands of wade you +7 attack and +15% attack speed.

So your attack is now 87 with a speed of 1.15.

so in 3 seconds

3 x1.15= 3.45 swings in 3 seconds.

3.45x87 (attack)= 300.15 total damage


Now attack with wubba pipe.

3 x 1.60= 4.8 swings in 3 seconds

4.8 x 80 (attack)= 384 total damage.

that's just my logic.

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Post by joshd Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:36 pm

thats a great point to make ccninja and against something like adventure mode it would probably be a great advantage, but in my opinion in pvp putting one of your frontline fighters at a disadvantage like hp loss even if it is only 4 per second can really make a huge difference. if you think about going against 2 fully geared heroes and the breakdown of the battle the zerk has a hard time making it to the enemy heroes with full hp which is essential if hes going to win. plus you have to account for spell damage and unit splash damage, so even by the time he reaches the other side he cant attack fast enough to heal himself. the succubus is different because she doesnt have to hardly move to attack.
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Post by ApeHeIs Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:57 am

On a Succ another thing that helps is how many shamans she can have around her to crank up her speed. When you get a hp boost on damage delt and she is hitting at +300% speed there is very little hp lost if any.

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